I'm sorry, but I don't think you quite get it. When they implement some kind of anti-bot, this kind of thing would not matter.MichaelV сказал(а):And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
No its not.Sant0s сказал(а):Your not getting my point of view.
What if that player start to bot on purpose just to fuck up that party? Is it fair for others to get ban?
Yes, you do that, and have fun playing l2.reni сказал(а):As Sant0s said. I can join enemy clan, get to a party, run bot and whole enemy party will be banned.
Read what I said. I have debunked you.MichaelV сказал(а):As i said and i will repeat, IF you have anyone in your party that is boting and your not kicking him from party then you deserve to get banned. If your unable to recognize if he's boting, neither will gm, so no harm done : )
I also think this is bad way to get some money. This rule allows GM to ban innocent players with the aim to have a good profit from unban service.Crysillion сказал(а):I'm sorry, but I don't think you quite get it. When they implement some kind of anti-bot, this kind of thing would not matter.MichaelV сказал(а):And that enemy party is blind? If they are ok with u boting in their party they deserve to get banned. Other examples?
It's also a really good idea, thanks muchly Santos. I will definitely be trying this on enemy parties I really do not like. MIGHT AS WELL GET THEM ALL BANNED.
It's not our fault you miss the folly in this rule, you cannot always know when someone is botting or not. You're blowing the term "botting" out of porportion. This could easily be known as running as Walker while not being AFK, typing and acting like a human being while actions are automated. Do not bullshit me with how this never happens because it happens more than you know, and when you implement the anti-bot. Whoops, entire party banned. Hey, I had no idea he was using Walker, he was responding just fine to me in chat. Oh well. Lalalalalala. I'll just pay the unban. Not. You won't get a fucking dime from me if you ban me unjustly, and you won't from anyone else either. Might want to rethink your financial strategies.
Hey I've got an idea. Make an alternate character on a different account, bot it up. Report myself when I'm alone then hang out in enemy parties until I get busted. This qualifies as having a botter in your party, that entire party would then be banned. Pretty cool rule, huh? And that situation isn't extreme at all considering reporting is done through PM's, they'd have no idea I'm about to set them up and rock their world with a mass ban.
yes man this is the solution not some ridiculous rules.... i tell u something.... if someone will get ban for 1.1.1 rule and he is innocent i bet he will pay nothing for unban (usually just those who are guilty paying for that) and he + other ppl will leave the server faster then u think.......MichaelV сказал(а):Don't forget that soon a new antibot will be installed. Ofc boting will still be possible, everywhere is. But it will reduce the botting ten fold and there will barely be a need for gm's to bot hunt.
I didn't dissapear. I'm ONE man trying to keep up with a zerg of unsatisfied players. Don't know who to respond first.Crysillion сказал(а):Where'd you go, Michael? You asked for a thorough and senseful reply and I gave you one. Then you up and disappear.
How do you see the difference between:MichaelV сказал(а):Please explain to us, how does this rule sux? Clear, well thought out answer please. Who ever will continue to spam or flame from now on will get 1 day off to clear their heads. If you can show me a good enough reason i will bring this topic in discussion with the other admins.
My mistake for the previous comment, showed you as gone but the forum lied. My point still stands.MichaelV сказал(а):First of all, don't look at my replies as the ones of an admin. I'm a player that wanted this position just so i can help you guys.
BUT, in this case, i really don't see the HUGE deal. Maybe i'm just stupid, but just kick the boter out of the party. If he's pr0 at boting and u can't notice that he's boting NEITHER will the gm.
P.S. This rule won't apply to the bans that will be given by the antibot. If anyone gets banned by the antibot while boting in a party, only he will be banned.