so since when you are pvping without proper buff and disco? in that case you just PR and come back with buffs for pvp but thats just one fraps, they came for us few times and died everytime so dont give me this "yeaa man you know no buffs and we werent prepared for pvp" kind of stuff..the cp im playing in on fraps isnt playing here for a few weeks now so i wasnt in siege with infrared, just dont speak if you got whole infos wrong..